In this episode, I’m joined by Kate Terentieva, founder of Off The Record—a connection card game built to help you skip the surface and get straight to the good stuff. We talk about everything from growing up as the go-to “deep chat” friend to building a product that’s helping people have conversations that actually matter.
We cover:
→ The real reason we struggle with adult friendships (hint: it’s not just time)
→ Why asking good questions is more powerful than having the right answers
→ How cultural identity, language, and being a first-gen American shaped how Kate connects
→ What she learned about human behavior from working with brands like WhatsApp & Four Seasons
→ And how Off The Record went from a side project to a movement for deeper connection
This episode is for you if you’ve ever sat at a networking event dreading the “what do you do?” convo, felt lonely in a room full of people, or just want to be better at making people feel seen (and also heard because that’s different).
FIND WHAT YOU NEED FROM THIS EPISODE:
00:00 – Meet the woman who turned awkward small talk into a connection game
06:31 – Why building relationships is literally the point
15:22 – Surface-level convos in a scroll-happy world
19:44 – A tool that makes conversations feel less like interviews
26:09 – From cultural confusion to a communications career
27:15 – A childhood love affair… with books
35:30 – The art (and magic) of meaningful conversations
41:40 – Creating space where people actually feel safe to be real
45:07 – Rethinking assumptions, ditching the small talk script
53:07 – How social media is messing with your relationships (yep, again)
58:24 – Change doesn’t start with a rebrand—it starts with a convo
01:02:00 – The strengths you didn’t know were your superpowers
01:05:35 – Want better convos? Try actually listening
01:15:19 – When your whole personality is “chronically online”
01:16:31 – Showing up online for something bigger than yourself
LINKS FROM THE EPISODE:
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CONNECT WITH KATE & OTR:
On IG @playofftherecord @katarinaterentieva
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